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11-24-2014, 04:33 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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I had a 2002 2720SL.
It had a wardrobe. If yours doesn't, someone removed it. Is this a negotiating issue? Perhaps TCS will get one, maybe even used, and throw it in for free?
It had metal in the shells, not wood. This is about the year when the changeover happened, though, so I would simply ask TCS to show you which one it has. Easy to do - just open up the front shell, and look under the bottom edge of the shell, along each side. You will see a row of screws along the entire length of the edge. Remove one of these screws. On the threads, you will see either (a) black rotten wood crumbs - uh oh! (b) clean sawdusty wood crumbs (wood, but not rotten - check several locations), or (c) squeaky-clean threads (aluminum!). If there is any question, grab a flashlight and peek up into the empty screwhole. You will be able to see the material the screw is screwed into. It is either wood or aluminum.
As for camping in cold weather, there is a long thread on this topic here on the forum. A Search will find it.
Is your garage heated to temps above freezing? If so, no need to do anything for storage. If not, you must drain everything.
When you camp, will you have hookups, or will you be boondocking?
To summarize what happens while camping:
The fresh water tank is inside. If you keep the interior warm, and the cabinet door open, it will not freeze.
The black water tank is inside. If you keep the interior warm, and the bathroom door open, it will not freeze.
The gray water tank is outside. It will freeze. Don't use it unless you can drain it immediately after use.
The water heater will keep itself warm if you leave water in it and leave it turned on.
The outdoor shower will freeze. Turn off the valves, remove the shower head, store it someplace warm, and drain the hose (you won't be showering outside in below freezing temps, will you?)
Assuming you have a city water supply, the water supply hose will freeze. Then you will have no water. Best to fill the fresh water tank, then disconnect and drain the hose.
The sewer drain hose will freeze if there is any water in it. If you have a sewer hookup, and drain the tanks, and thoroughly drain the slinky hose, then the only thing that will freeze is the small amount of water trapped between the coils. This will not hurt anything AS LONG AS YOU DON'T FLEX THE HOSE.
The TM is air-leaky along the edges of the beds. Get a couple swimming pool noodles, or some slit foam pipe insulation, and carry it with you.
Other respondents - what have I missed or misstated?
Bill
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11-24-2014, 05:41 PM
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TrailManor Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Big Bend area, Florida
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The question about opening the camper up while hooked to the TV may not be a problem. Just don't go down the highway that way. For us we can't get the topper open without the stone guard down.
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11-25-2014, 12:31 PM
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TrailManor Master
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Centennial, Colorado
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I camp in my 2417 when it is below freezing. I do have to put RV antifreeze into my gray tank, though, so I can still open the drain valve. Other than that, I have no problems.
I have been under 25° two nights in a row, no problem whatsoever, as it gets above 40° during the day. I did one night of 9°, and one of 20° back-to-back, and only had the gray drain freeze on me (before I thought about antifreeze).
It depends on how long you will be camping, how winter camping works out for you. I use two bottles of propane for 6 nights of heater use. I have solar, so my batteries top-off daily, so the drain on batteries by the furnace fan is not an issue for me, as of yet.
You can stay warm, but if temps are below freezing, your heater will cycle-on frequently. Be sure you have sufficient propane.
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11-25-2014, 01:42 PM
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TrailManor Master
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Somerset, OH
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The wardrobe. If you decide to get a wardrobe from the factory you may not be able to get it with the same finish as the 02 had. If that would be a concern, you may want to check.
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Previous: 2009, 3023-QB and 2003 2720
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11-25-2014, 08:07 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Southeast of Houston, Texas
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I took the wardrobe out of our TM and put it in the attic because we didn't like using it. I would sell it to you cheap but I fear the shipping cost would be prohibitive. Maybe you know someone who travels to Houston? PM me if you are interested. It has the sliding piano hinge still attached.
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11-26-2014, 08:13 AM
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TrailManor Master
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: GA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wbmiller3
I took the wardrobe out of our TM and put it in the attic because we didn't like using it. I would sell it to you cheap but I fear the shipping cost would be prohibitive. Maybe you know someone who travels to Houston? PM me if you are interested. It has the sliding piano hinge still attached.
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Ours doesn't have it either, not sure if from the factory like that or not. But for our usual camping style, we probably get more use from the extra counter space.
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11-26-2014, 06:06 AM
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TrailManor Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Big Bend area, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LoveToCamp
I camp in my 2417 when it is below freezing. I do have to put RV antifreeze into my gray tank, though, so I can still open the drain valve. Other than that, I have no problems.
I have been under 25° two nights in a row, no problem whatsoever, as it gets above 40° during the day. I did one night of 9°, and one of 20° back-to-back, and only had the gray drain freeze on me (before I thought about antifreeze).
It depends on how long you will be camping, how winter camping works out for you. I use two bottles of propane for 6 nights of heater use. I have solar, so my batteries top-off daily, so the drain on batteries by the furnace fan is not an issue for me, as of yet.
You can stay warm, but if temps are below freezing, your heater will cycle-on frequently. Be sure you have sufficient propane.
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This is why we are taking the Mr Heater Buddy along, it uses less propane.
Nether heater is run at night, all lines will be drained as we will use a 2 1/2 gal jug for water. We have been camping when the five gal jugs have frozen.
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11-26-2014, 07:13 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Southeast of Houston, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill
...Easy to do - just open up the front shell, and look under the bottom edge of the shell, along each side. You will see a row of screws along the entire length of the edge. Remove one of these screws. On the threads, you will see either (a) black rotten wood crumbs - uh oh! (b) clean sawdusty wood crumbs (wood, but not rotten - check several locations), or (c) squeaky-clean threads (aluminum!). If there is any question, grab a flashlight and peek up into the empty screwhole. You will be able to see the material the screw is screwed into. It is either wood or aluminum....
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I did this check out of curiosity this morning and was pleased to see aluminum! I was surprised though because we bought the camper (new) in 2001. It had the round wheel wells too, so maybe it was an "early adopter".
I'm doubly glad I did this check because a number of these screws needed to be tightened up, especially the ones nearest to the lift system mounting points.
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12-08-2014, 06:14 PM
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Good list Bill on cold weather camping. One minor add on, the black and gray water tank valves will also freeze and lock up. So best, as you have indicated, is to drain the tanks, which also protects the valves.
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