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Old 05-07-2017, 06:52 PM   #1
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Default Roof slope?

So I just checked out a 2004 TrailManor 3023. Everything looked solid except for the roof on the back half.

If I'm standing in the kitchen area, under the Air Conditioner, the roof has a sag in the middle. Is this normal?

When viewing the vinyl curtain that completes the upper 3-4 inches of the bathroom wall and considering the bathroom wall to be level, the height difference at the edge and towards the door of the bathroom is about an inch or so... If that makes any sense.

Is this normal?
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Old 05-07-2017, 09:50 PM   #2
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Is this normal?
I don't know if its normal, or not, but mine is like that. I have a 2005 3023. Mine spent a winter, opened, at my cousin's house, while they were waiting to get their occupancy permit on a new construction home. Legally, they couldn't stay in the home without it, but the town was slower than cold molasses issuing the permit. So for appearances, the TM was there as if they were living in it. Unfortunately, this was a winter we had 22 feet of snow, and he didn't necessarily keep the roof clear. My front shell is creased in two places, most likely from the weight of snow on the roof. The back shell sags as you described. I battled water leaks for a while, mostly at the front of the a/c, and rear of roof vent right in front of the a/c - both places on the front shell. Last year I pulled all the caulking and sealed all the roof seams with Eternabond tape. It's not pretty, but it works.

Look for water stains at top of curtain & valance on the rear window - if the back shell leaks, water will usually run down the trim along the center roof line and dribble down on the valance & curtain.
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Old 05-11-2017, 09:11 AM   #3
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I'm mainly worried about water infiltration due to the sagging in the middle. I'd expect the middle to be higher than the outer edges to allow water to run off the sides.
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Old 05-11-2017, 09:36 AM   #4
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My 2720 fits snuggly from the sides to the middle. I believe the TM website actually says they deliberately slope it down to the sides. If it doesn't slope this way, it doesn't sound good.
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Old 05-11-2017, 12:22 PM   #5
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So I just checked out a 2004 TrailManor 3023. Everything looked solid except for the roof on the back half.

If I'm standing in the kitchen area, under the Air Conditioner, the roof has a sag in the middle. Is this normal?

When viewing the vinyl curtain that completes the upper 3-4 inches of the bathroom wall and considering the bathroom wall to be level, the height difference at the edge and towards the door of the bathroom is about an inch or so... If that makes any sense.

Is this normal?
Can you take some pictures and post them? That would help a great deal in diagnosing any potential issue.
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Old 05-11-2017, 06:17 PM   #6
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Everything looked solid except for the roof on the back half. If I'm standing in the kitchen area, under the Air Conditioner, the roof has a sag in the middle. Is this normal?
Let me be sure I understand. The REAR roof has a sag, but the air conditioner is mounted on the FRONT roof? That's unusual. Usually it is the front roof that bends down under the weight of the air conditioner.

By 2004, I think the shells had aluminum framing, so wood rot shouldn't be an issue. It sounds like someone of considerable heft climbed up on the rear roof, moved to the edge, and ... well, you know.

I'm not quite sure how to fix it, but first let us know that my mental picture is accurate.

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Old 05-11-2017, 09:23 PM   #7
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Default Front Shell Sag

My 3023 front shell has a sag. There's an obvious reason: three cut-outs right next to each other, for two roof vents and the air conditioner, plus the weight of the air conditioner. Yes, it is more likely to leak here, and you can pay some attention to the sealing of the openings.
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Old 05-11-2017, 10:44 PM   #8
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Check for the slope on the outside. On the inside, my 2720 is almost perfectly flat, but has a crown on the outside.
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Let me be sure I understand. The REAR roof has a sag, but the air conditioner is mounted on the FRONT roof? That's unusual. Usually it is the front roof that bends down under the weight of the air conditioner.

By 2004, I think the shells had aluminum framing, so wood rot shouldn't be an issue. It sounds like someone of considerable heft climbed up on the rear roof, moved to the edge, and ... well, you know.

I'm not quite sure how to fix it, but first let us know that my mental picture is accurate.

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You're right... It's the back roof. The front half roof is pretty flat.
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Old 05-12-2017, 08:16 PM   #10
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You're right... It's the back roof. The front half roof is pretty flat.
Something happened to it. Like snow load. Maybe you should keep looking.
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