Considering buying a 2005 2720SL from private owner

I'm actually loving every minute of it. It beats the 3 hours I spent trying to get tags for the TM at the DMV. Everyone has to stand in one 'info' line without any forms or instructions on what to do. They only have a couple one place in our county for titles and they don't answer questions or give you forms until you stand for one or one and half hours to find out you don't have the right documents. They didn't know what to do with my TM and I need to do this all over again (stand in line after an inspection).

Really, the forum is at least helpful.

And, I've been trolling the Owners Forum for at least 2 years and joined about a year ago. So I've read a lot at TMs, but until you actually get one, then the real learning starts. I'm lucky as every manual and brochure was passed onto me, but I just keep reading and leaning new things every time I check the topics.

Not sure what I would have done without everyone's help. It's like a big happy family and I'm glad that I'm a part of it.

Theresa
 
The weight distributing hitch is a good idea, in that it will make your tow vehicle ride better and stop safer when you are towing. You'll likely find that it's recommended in your Tahoe owner's manual where it talks about towing, also an important piece of reading material. Also, I don't remember if anyone posted this already for you, but you absolutely have to have a brake controller and proper wiring installed in your Tahoe. Lots of people like the Prodigy.

With a little practice, you can learn to back the trailer. Just have your spouse stand in a visible spot and provide encouragement to keep you out of the shrubbery. I'd at least try this awhile first because you'll find the unhitch and re-hitch to be a hassle, installing a hitch on the front than can support a 500# tongue may not be trivial, and you might be surprised by how little you'd be able to see through the windshield if you were hitched in front (you could check this part by pulling the Tahoe up close to the unhitched trailer).

I share some concerns about 30 amp draws on 15 amp circuits, but you just have to be sensible about what you are doing. Knowing that you can't run everything at once is the key, and my 15 amp outdoor circuit in the garage doesn't trip the breaker in my house if I do just a little load management. If you're blowing the breaker in the house, you need to take this as a need to find a better approach.

- Check to make sure the water heater 110v switch is off. You could do this by clicking the breaker off in the TM panel instead of that little hard-to-find switch in the outside water heater access, except that in my TM that breaker turns off the refrigerator too.

- My TM AC unit has a "low cool" setting which presumably draws less power, and I wouldn't run the AC on a 15 amp circuit longer than necessary. In other words, don't run it all day, just run it for the hour you're going to be working out there. In the winter, if I needed to be there for some reason, I just plug in a little space heater to take the chill off.

- I have a small circuit tester which is always plugged in in the TrailManor. The 2 green lights tell me that the 110 power source to the TM is connected and wired correctly (a power outlet that's wired backwards is really dangerous to RV people). It also functions as a night light when we're in the campground.

- Make yourself checklists for setting up and closing down (or there are some good ones people have posted in the forum). This will help you remember to not be all folded down and hitched before you notice the step is still out and the roof vents are open.

- Take it easy when you tow, especially at first.

Welcome to the forum!
 
Not sure what I would have done without everyone's help.

I hear ya! There is a TREMENDOUS amount of experience here and it's great that all are willing to share. I too would have been in a lot of trouble without the info here.

I can't wait to get the TM out for it's next trip!
 
Everyone is a great help. I found the checklists that a couple of people has put together and am working on putting in a binder. Some work really went into these documents. I also found document, Mike and Kelly's TraimManor 2720 User Manual. Loving that one.

I had dh check our breaker boxes. The previous owner had an add'tl one installed when they had a hot tub. So we have plenty of room on the 20 amp circuit I'm testing one thing at a time. I ran out to Walmart again today and found a 15 amp to 30 amp converter with an indicator light to show if circuit trips. It seems to work just fine. Today was fans and fridge. Seems to be cooling very well running on shore power. Tomorrow I'll work on filling the water tank and observing for leaks before trying to run anything. Didn't think of making sure water heater off. Just checked and the pump switch is off, so no need to turn off the circuit. Dh out of town for the next week, so I'm on my own with everything, which I really don't mind. I went to go get a brake controller and dh had already researched and ordered one. I'll let him install it. He seems to be warming up to the idea that we got a good deal and not a lemon.

I'll also see if the fridge works on propane. Then I'll move over to checking the AC and stove.

One question I have is the fridge fan. Do you run that when using propane? I'm sure I'll find the answer here. The fan seems to work fine. Ran for a few hours tonight.

I can't believe that there are so many helpful people in this forum. I really enjoyed reading what people don't like about their TM. I'm leaving the toilet to the very end of my testing.

Going to give it a really cleaning from top to bottom even though everything looks great. It's just the idea that I've scrubbed it down that will make it really feel like home. Bought everything from vinyl and winder cleaner and shieldx to auto/rv carpet and upholstery cleaner to start with.

I even purchased a few non-essentials, such as an Easy Breeze dorrway screen curtain that I'm going to tailor to the TM door. Works fine even though made for a regular house. Make it much nicer inside on a 97 degree day!

Thanks everyone for all the input, support and advice. Really made the decision to purchase knowing that there was some sort of support system since my dh says that it's my toy.

I think I got a real gem of a TM here. So far only one minor problem. The spring is missing or failed on one of the legs to the left table, so it won't stay up. Really, been fun finding all the storage space and discovering all the nice features.
 
tgpmd1 -

Glad you're enthusiastic about your TM, and about the help that this board can provide for you. Your Trial Membership has expired, which means you have lost access to the best parts of the board. In order to reinstate it, you need to go to the board's entry page at www.trailmanorowners.com, and click the link describing Site Sponsorship.

Bill
 
Finally found something wrong (other than the table leg not locking). The interior lights over the sofa bed aren't working. It's not the bulbs. Hopefully something as simple as a fuse. I'll look into that today.

Also, there are speakers there in the same area, but can't find any info in the original owner's manual on how to utilize them. Hubby looked around and couldn't figure it out right off hand. Any ideas?

Thanks!
 
The hidden switch for those lights is located inside one of your roof vents...the clever folks at TM have fooled many an owner!

Normally, the speaker wires are routed to behind the panel above the front of the refrigerator. This is where a radio would go. The panel should easily slide out.
 
Whoa! What a place to put a switch for the front interior lights! Also found the panel for the radio.

Fixed the clip for the table leg, so back down to everything working so far.

The advice on this owner's forum is priceless!

Turned on fan for the ac. Looks a bit dirty so I'm going to clean it out before trying to run the ac on shore power. Looks like an easy job.

The more I get into trying everything out in my new toy, the more impressed I am with all of the features.
 
Let me offer a bit of magic for the table leg. When the table is set up, and you want to put it away, you lift it, push the button on the leg, and slide the lower portion of the leg up into the upper portion, right? Warning! If you slide the lower portion all the way in (the intuitively-correct thing to do), it will surely jam, and then you will be playing with the clip again, and cutting yourself, and cursing. Easy answer? When you push the button, and slide the lower part upward, slide it just an inch. No more is required. It will never jam.

Bill
 
Fridge fan question. The fan controlled by the switch under the sink is for use whenever you run the fridge ( any mode) with the TM closed. The normal side vents are covered by the top shell sides. You can also run it if it is really hot outside to remove a little more heat although adding a separate small 12V muffin fan in the top vent blowing out is much more effective if the TM is open.
 
Let me offer a bit of magic for the table leg. When the table is set up, and you want to put it away, you lift it, push the button on the leg, and slide the lower portion of the leg up into the upper portion, right? Warning! If you slide the lower portion all the way in (the intuitively-correct thing to do), it will surely jam, and then you will be playing with the clip again, and cutting yourself, and cursing. Easy answer? When you push the button, and slide the lower part upward, slide it just an inch. No more is required. It will never jam.

Bill

Thanks for the advice. I'll have to teach my 11 y.o. not to slide too far.
 
O.K., finally found a problem. The manual does not seem helpful regarding leaks. I've been looking through the plumbing posts and I'll post my question there. Thanks everyone for help so far!
 
More work than tent camping? How? With the TM, you don't have to pack dishes, cooking utensils, paper products, cleaning supplies, bedding, lights, stoves, coolers - we do still take one for drinks - fuel for cooking.......so many things! This alone beats tent camping. If it rains, you don't have to pack a wet, muddy tent and tarps up and go home to dry everything out. And you have a SINK! And a bathroom! And a stove and a refrigerator and lights with switches and heat if it gets cold.......yeah, momma will be really happy. :p We tented for years - I didn't mind it, but the TM is soooo much better.
Good points...you could also have mentioned that in a hard-body trailer you are less likely to attract a hungry grizzly bear in places like Glacier National Park...they can smell right through canvas from miles away but not so much through metal...
 
I'm so excited! Thanks for everyone's help with this. I hope to meet other TM owners sometime soon.


I have a question. How did you learn about TM's? If you don't know anyone who has one. We saw our first TM perhaps 15 year ago at a RV show in CA the salesman invited my wife to put it up and down just to show how easy it was. And we never forgot it So many years later we got a 2720SL for about 1.5 years until health and age made us move to a Elkmont. :eek:
 
I am the research queen according to my friends.

My family grew up with everything from VW campers, PU truck mounted campers, RV's no bigger than a large van to 5th wheels. My DH and I have been tent campers for over 25 years. I'm a spoiled camper. I have a camping kitchen with a double sink, a screen house and DH can rig tarps that keep everyone dry. We are the place to be when it rains. So when I suggested that we, 'move up' to a better system. He had no idea that I meant a camper. Getting up in the middle of the night is just such a bummer when it's snowing, raining or just about anytime nowadays.

So before we/I turned 50, I wanted something with a bed off the ground (arthritis) and a bathroom. Not too much to ask. DH likes to camp as far away as possible from the bath house, so makes for a long hike at night. I also know that towing something as big as a 5th wheel is a lot of work. My parents had a small RV, but basically without taking a separate car, you pretty much need to pack up the campsite to go anywhere if there is no transportation available. Also didn't want something as heavy as a Hi-Lo (you know that they went of of business last month?). Also, we've seen some trailers overturned or worse yet, it pieces after breaking up along the highway (we travel out west every other year). So the TM seemed to be the best of available choices. Low, light weight compact.

I started my search almost exactly 2 years ago this month. Decided on a TM almost immediately. Never saw one until I noticed one on the highway about 18 months ago. Didn't see one 'in person' until we went to an RV show last fall. DH agreed that he liked the 2720SL, but since we're a one income family, a new one was not an option. Finally found my dream TM just over two weeks ago. Still haven't taken it out yet as I'm working on making everything brand spanking new. Hopefully next week. Checked with the Naval Base and it will be allowed to be used in the group camping area. No hookups, but we'll see how it goes. Just having a debate over the tires with DH. Look new, seem new, but we'll see. I'd like to get new ones, but we'll repack the bearings and inspect the stems today. The good news is that the camp ground is only 90 miles away.

Also, if it wasn't for this Owner's Forum, I'm not sure I would have been so sure about buying a used camper. Turns out we've spent very little so far to fix, clean, etc. Installing a prodigy brake controller system today or tomorrow. Watched the video and it seems pretty easy. What's not so easy is that our TM is parked in the bottom of the driveway on a slope (see profile pic). It has a bump to go up, then a bit steeper at the bottom.

It would be interesting to see if anyone else saw a TM in person before they decided it was for them.
 
I am the research queen according to my friends.

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It would be interesting to see if anyone else saw a TM in person before they decided it was for them.

Absolutely we looked at a couple directly before we decided it was for us. Not only to see if the layout/size seemed right, but to completely understand what the setup/takedown really entailed. Also, conceptually, I figured it to be a 'house of cards' (i.e. being rickety and un stable). Needless to say I was pleasantly surprised at how wrong I was and how well thought out it was. I was able to accept the trade offs that left some elements less than optimal. Overall, I accept the few cons in light of all the pros (for us.)

p.s. as a research queen, I am sure you have read about tire date codes and how 'look good' can be potentially irrelavant.
 
Just having a debate over the tires with DH. Look new, seem new, but we'll see. I'd like to get new ones, but we'll repack the bearings and inspect the stems today. The good news is that the camp ground is only 90 miles away.

It would be interesting to see if anyone else saw a TM in person before they decided it was for them.

I haven't read all the posts in this thread in detail, but if your tires are more than three years old I'd replace them. We bought our TM when it was 6 years old, it was immaculate, and the tires still had the little rubber feeler thingies on them. They were original, but we didn't check the dates :new_newbi. We made a couple of trips before we had a blowout. It was not a fun experience, no matter how far you are from the house, you need to deal with it, and in 90 degree heat, stuck somewhere on the side of the road, it is not fun. When you get it changed, then you're worried the whole time that your spare is going to blow and then you'll be really out of luck.

I found out about TM's on the internet and then found this site in 2003. We were able to find two members of the board who were nice enough to let us come visit their TM's and after seeing one in person, we decided for sure that they were for us. We also had to do some experimenting with a utility trailer, some sticks approximating a 20' frame tied to the back of it, hitched up to our truck to be sure that we could get it in and out of our driveway.
 
Yup, DH doesn't want to spend any money he doesn't need to. I'm pushing for the, 'But safety first' argument. Anyway, off to install the brake controller.
 
We stumbled across ours because I was searching for two things, everywhere I could think of: Cheap and light. The TM was on craigslist in a nearby city, I was searching the RV section and it popped up. Checked out Trailmanor online, found Happytrail's site, drove 90 miles to look at it and towed it home. All in one weekend.
 

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